Scribe Caste of Gor (SCoG) Meeting

Meeting Minutes

Date: August 20, 2025

Time: Approximately 08:04 to 09:20 (in-chat time). 

Location: Tyros 

http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Unknown%20Island/227/102/35

Attendees:

• Abraham Jacobson

• Trygg Tyran

• Leya

• Bea Lael Gùshì

• Kati Evans

• Odette Atheria

• KAR (Karisima Stein)

• Saku Takahashi 高橋 (joined late)

Topics Discussed:

1. Meeting Logistics & Attendance:

   • Abraham initiated the meeting, noting the importance of starting due to people moving around at the "end of the summer."

   • Leya confirmed her first attendance and mentioned her location is the Oasis of Lame Kaiila in the Tahari.

   • Myriam was unable to attend due to "RL" (real-life) reasons.

   • Art Chesnokov was expected but went offline; it was assumed something came up.

   • Saku Takahashi from Kurtzal joined the meeting late and was welcomed.

2. Future Meeting Location (Next Month):

   • Abraham suggested using "Varn" (likely a location/sim) for the next month's meeting due to new cities, people moving, and potential lag issues on older computers.

   • Abraham mentioned being in "Selnar" (corrected from "Synar") and that it's often full and problematic for older computers.

   • Kati mentioned having a nice home in the islands of Selnar.

3. New City Developments:

   • Hermes is building a new city in the Tahari, which is not yet finished but well-done.

   • Odette announced a new Isle of Telekus is being set up, with the region delivered yesterday.

   • Abraham requested a teleport (TP) to the new city/Isle from Odette, and Kati also requested one. KAR asked for the Sim Rules when available.

   • Abraham expressed interest in helping set up new cities, having done so three times before.

   • Bea clarified that Genesian Port was rebuilt after a "Kur invasion" about a month and a half ago.

   • Abraham offered a list of 146 cities, updated weekly.

4. Scribe Summit Planning (Main Topic):

   • Schedule: Five weeks until the summit. The current plan is for debates: Friday (first two people), Saturday (second two), and a run-off Sunday between the top two.  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eSnXY-SvDrlNFqFZDmISmNHtLBb8-LtrrbE5GcvUvts/edit?usp=share_link

     
     
     

   • Lectures/Debates:

     • Trygg suggested moving Abraham's ambassador and alliance lectures to avoid conflict with opening ceremonies. Abraham agreed to move them to a later time.

     • Victoria F classes are now listed.

     • Need at least two more applicants for the debate (total of four needed) for a 5000L prize. Abraham will resend the application.

   • Location: The Summit will take place in Hermes' city, "Isfahan" (spelled by Trygg).

   • Promotion: Trygg suggested creating a revised poster (as the current one misspells "Isfahan"), sending it to group members, and asking them to post it in their libraries. Trygg shared a copy of the "Scribe Caste Summitv2" poster (with the known misspelling). Odette and KAR also requested copies.  

   • Preparation: Trygg proposed that before the next meeting, they should create a list of needs (lecturers, debate participants, etc.) and a preliminary final schedule, sending regular notices in September to urge attendance. Abraham agreed.

5. Future Meeting Schedule (Post-Summit):

   • Trygg suggested meeting on September 3, September 17, and an extra meeting on September 24.

   • The September 24 meeting could be cancelled if everything is done by the 17th, but it's good to keep it as a backup.

   • Discussion initiated about what to do between October and March, possibly cutting back meetings to once a month. Enkara prep will begin in February.

6. Scribe Caste Codes/Code of Ethics:

   • Trygg asked if the scribe caste codes had been voted on. Abraham acknowledged he forgot and asked Trygg to bring it up at the next meeting.

   • Abraham said the "current version" of the codes, stating they've been revised every seven years.

   • Odette questioned the terminology, suggesting they seem more like "attributes" or a "code of ethics" rather than "codes" as seen in warrior castes.

   • Abraham clarified that these are their ethical teachings and beliefs, noting they've been called "codes" and taught as such for 16 years at the campus.

   • KAR expressed that not all scribes agreed to them as "codes" and that some saw them as ethics.

   • Consensus was reached to change the title to "Code of Ethics" to better reflect the content and terminology.

   • Discussion about consequences for not following the codes (impartiality, honesty) was briefly touched upon, with the general agreement that it would be a matter for their city caste, as enforcement is difficult.

   • Trygg also suggested "aphorisms" as an alternative term but noted they were less specific. He later shared a notecard titled "Scribe Code Aphorisms."  https://katievansstudynotes.blogspot.com/2025/08/scribe-code-aphorisms.html

To-Dos:

• Abraham Jacobson:

  • Resend the application for debate participants (needs two more).

  • Move his ambassador and alliance lectures to a later time slot to avoid conflict with opening ceremonies.

  • Get the misspelling on the Scribe Summit poster corrected and make a new banner.

  • Send out the corrected Scribe Summit poster to group members and ask them to post it in their libraries.

  • Add classes soon (possibly related to Victoria F classes).

  • Send out a notice for presenters for the next two weeks.

  • Look into how to list events on the Discord group.

  • Prepare to pass out the Scribe Caste Codes/Code of Ethics document at the next meeting for discussion and a vote.

  • Change the name of the "Scribe Codes" document to "Code of Ethics" or "Codes or Ethics."

  • Potentially make a second session for discussing the Code of Ethics.

• Odette Atheria:

  • Send TPs for the new Isle of Telekus when available to Abraham and Kati.

  • Continue working on laws, rules, and other things for the new Isle of Telekus.

• Trygg Tyran:

  • Create a list of needs (lecturers, debate participants, etc.) for the Summit before the next meeting.

  • Put out a preliminary final schedule for the Summit.

  • Send regular notices during September urging people to attend the Summit.

  • Bring up the Scribe Caste Codes/Code of Ethics for discussion and a vote at the next meeting.

  • Send a list of Scribe Code Aphorisms to Kati and KAR.

  • (Already did: Gave Scribe Caste Summitv2 texture and Scribe Code Aphorisms notecard to attendees.)

• KAR (Karisima Stein):

  • Request Sim Rules for the new Isle of Telekus when available.

  • Provide input on the Scribe Caste Codes/Code of Ethics.

• Kati Evans:

  • Compile anything sent for the next meeting to add to her notes.

  • Send a link to the meeting summaries to SCoG (Scribe Caste of Gor, implied).

  • Receive a copy of the list of codes/ethics.

• All Attendees:

• Review the Scribe Caste Codes/Code of Ethics document and provide input.

- Kati Evans

  20 Aug 2025

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[08:04] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Did you send a tarn to Art, Abraham?

[08:04] zCS: Hi Kati, "The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts today."

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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[08:04] Leya (leya86): thank you, good to see you as well.  Glad I was finally able to make it to one of these.

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[08:04] Nephtides na Neidos (nephtides) is online.

[08:04] Sylvi Amour is online.

[08:04] Sara (alluring.waggletail) is online.

[08:04] William Carver is online.

[08:04] Flo (floreo) is online.

[08:04] Huntsy Silverpath (huntsman.hinterland) is online.

[08:04] ﾚаяа (larabones) is online.

[08:04] Dexter Winters (sytheking1) is online.

[08:04] ᴛᴏᴏ ᴘʀᴇᴛᴛʏ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ (aspen.candyclaws) is online.

[08:04] Reese Kismyaz-ʙʟᴀᴄᴋʙᴜʀɴ (keeperofthezoo) is online.

[08:04] Selia (violet325) is online.

[08:04] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2) is online.

[08:04] Riker (runningman5) is online.

[08:04] BB Arliss (busybee.ashbourne) is online.

[08:04] Tyan Cabot (tyancabot) is online.

[08:04] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran) is online.

[08:04] Avery Hamilton (freyadragonborn) is online.

[08:04] Vαяη (varndavar.magic) is online.

[08:04] Odette Atheria is online.

[08:04] Zellie (princess.zelmanov) is online.

[08:05] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): lets get going never know who or when people will come

[08:05] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Esp this time of year, people moving ect , end of the summer

[08:05] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Leya , what city are you in these days

[08:06] Leya (leya86): well not really much of a city....more a small village in the Tahari....the Oasis of Lame Kaiila

[08:07] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): oh where myriam goes

[08:07] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): She cannot be here today

[08:07] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): rl

[08:07] Leya (leya86): aye where Myriam is now and then as well as Art

[08:08] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): What is art's last name

[08:08] Leya (leya86): chesnokov

[08:09] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): he asked for  a tp

[08:09] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) nods and greets those that had just arrived

[08:09] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but went off line

[08:09] Tyan Cabot (tyancabot) is offline.

[08:09] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Bea always a pleaseure

[08:09] Leya (leya86): aye Art was planning to be here so something must have come up

[08:09] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) smiled

[08:10] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): any ideas where we can meet next month?

[08:12] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): ok we can use varn for next month, alot of new cites, people are moving around right now, mine is not set up for it, and the lag is a bitch

[08:12] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): older computers will crash

[08:12] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Where are you now Abraham?

[08:12] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): synar

[08:13] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): sorry

[08:13] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I don't know that one. Very well

[08:13] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): selnar

[08:13] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Oh

[08:13] Huntsy Silverpath (huntsman.hinterland) is offline.

[08:13] Viktoria Audax (viki.raynier) is online.

[08:13] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Selnar has been around for awhile

[08:13] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): its usually full and if your computer is not up to date an issue

[08:13] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Hermies is bulding a new city

[08:13] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Tahari

[08:13] Kati Evans: I have a nice home in the islands of Selnar.

[08:14] Kati Evans: Oh nice

[08:14] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Its not really finished,

[08:14] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I see. Do we have a revised schedule for the summit?

[08:14] Odette Atheria: There will also be a new Isle of Telekus.  We are setting it up now, region was delivered yesterday

[08:14] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but its well done

[08:14] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): can you get me a tp for that city Odette

[08:15] shar Silverclaw-Jacobson  (shar.boxen) is online.

[08:15] Odette Atheria: I will when I have one.

[08:15] Kelli Gяєyℳooη:-Rizzo (kellygr5) is online.

[08:15] Kati Evans: Me too, if you would.

[08:15] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): Mind sending me the Sim Rules  when available?

[08:16] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): i like going before the rules are set up

[08:16] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): for once id like to help set one up

[08:16] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): Aye, I like knowing what I'm stepping into.

[08:16] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): three times i set the rules

[08:16] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): so it depends

[08:16] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): so as to Tryggs question

[08:17] Viƞceƞt Hiɱʋɾɑ Bσɑ Hɑɗes (redwolf.violet) is online.

[08:17] Selia (violet325) is offline.

[08:17] Odette Atheria: Wow - I am still working on Laws, rules and other things.

[08:18] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): see she beat me

[08:18] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I never get there quickly enough

[08:18] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): grins

[08:18] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): Take your time with the Laws, rules.  There's a trend when it comes to Laws..  Where they match city to city  when all Places had their own laws.

[08:19] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eSnXY-SvDrlNFqFZDmISmNHtLBb8-LtrrbE5GcvUvts/edit?usp=share_link

[08:19] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): there you go current version

[08:19] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): We have five weeks until the summit

[08:20] BB Arliss (busybee.ashbourne) is offline.

[08:20] Madeleine Brigantes (mallairian) is online.

[08:20] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Two have applied for the debate, we need at least two more. With a 5000 L prize i hope to get them

[08:20] Sparkle (sparklingjewelri) is online.

[08:20] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I will send the applicaiton again

[08:20] Sparkle (sparklingjewelri) is offline.

[08:20] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): the topics we have discussed her

[08:21] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): friday will be the first two people

[08:21] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): sat the second two and a run off sunday between the top two. Are there any issues?

[08:22] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Just one suggestion. The ambassador and alliance lectures that you are giving, Abraham. Why not move them to another time so that they aren't conflicting with the opening.ceremonies?

[08:24] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): as to do with euro, but i am going to move them to a later time for us. Not a lot of room right now sunday is full which is good

[08:25] Nephtides na Neidos (nephtides) is offline.

[08:27] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Victoria F classes are now listed

[08:27] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Not sure how much that alstopy class with go over

[08:29] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I'm delighted that Victoria will be here

[08:29] Ayira Nayo (ayiranayo) is online.

[08:30] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): i will move my second over to 14

[08:30] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that may help

[08:31] Huntsy Silverpath (huntsman.hinterland) is online.

[08:31] Ayira Nayo (ayiranayo) is offline.

[08:32] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): Where will the Scribe Summit take place?

[08:33] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): In hermies city can you spell it Trygg

[08:34] shanni Jacobson (shannondoa) is online.

[08:34] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Isfahan

[08:34] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): Thank you

[08:34] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I'm looking for a poster.

[08:36] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I can't find a poster on which is it spelled correctly. We can ask Myriam about it

[08:36] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): laughs

[08:36] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): well he has to make a new banner

[08:37] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): any other ideas , suggestions

[08:37] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Or whoever made the poster. It is a great poster. Perhaps you can send it to group members and ask them to post it in their libraries

[08:37] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes

[08:37] Odette Atheria: may I have one, please, Trygg

[08:37] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): good idea

[08:38] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Yes, Odette, but the city is spelled incorrectly on the copies I have.

[08:38] Odette Atheria: understood

[08:39] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Did you get it?

[08:39] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): I would like a copy.

[08:39] Kati Evans: I think we all would

[08:40] Second Life: TryggTyran gave you Scribe Caste Summitv2.

[08:40] Saku Takahashi 高橋 (mi.yuequi) quietly finds a seat

[08:41] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Caveat. The name of the city is misspelled.

[08:41] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Will get that corrected

[08:41] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): tal  Saku

[08:42] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): where are you from?

[08:42] Saku Takahashi 高橋 (mi.yuequi): Tal Abraham, I am from Kurtzal.

[08:42] Kati Evans: Welcome

[08:42] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): glad you re here

[08:43] Saku Takahashi 高橋 (mi.yuequi): Thank you, Tal everyone.

[08:43] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): Greetings

[08:43] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran) smiles

[08:43] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): There is a new city, Besnet, one family seems to be running it all great build

[08:44] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): i am not sure what happened to Genesian Port

[08:44] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): its a long ways from where it was

[08:44] shar Silverclaw-Jacobson  (shar.boxen) is offline.

[08:45] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) "It was rebuilt after the catastrophe of the Kur invasion about a month and a half ago. Was a very intense moment in time."

[08:45] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): i have the list of cities, which changes weekly but there is 146 cites listed if you want it

[08:45] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Perhaps before the next meeting we can make a list of needs, such as lecturers, debate participants, etc, and put out a preliminary final schedule for the event and send regular notices during the month of September urging people to attend

[08:45] Tyan Cabot (tyancabot) is online.

[08:46] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes that is needed

[08:46] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I hate to pester , watch someone say they did not know

[08:46] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): And can we decide that the September meetings will be on Sept 3, 17 and an extra one on September 24?

[08:47] zCS # [Mod] Meandust Resident [RP] logged into the region.

[08:47] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): so the third is first

[08:47] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): So we need one on the 24th thoughts

[08:48] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Bea?

[08:48] Odette Atheria: It would make a good wrap up and analysis after the Summit

[08:48] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that is before it

[08:48] Odette Atheria: oh

[08:48] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I don't think it will hurt

[08:48] Odette Atheria: sorry - my brain is mush right now

[08:48] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): if everything is done by the 17th, then we can cancel it

[08:49] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): should be

[08:49] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I am going to add classes soon

[08:49] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Great. But we should keep the extra meeting in our pocket just in case.

[08:49] Odette Atheria: Isn't there a mechanism on the Discord group to list events?

[08:49] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but will send out  a notice for presentors for the next two weeks

[08:49] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes

[08:50] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): i need to do the link and a pic for those not into goodle

[08:50] zCS # [Mod] Meandust Resident [RP] logged into the region.

[08:51] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): We need to start looking at what we can accomplish beteen Oct and March ,

[08:51] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Enkara prep will be gin in feb

[08:51] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): But , what do we want to do in that gap if anything

[08:52] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Maybe cut back the meetings to once a month?

[08:53] Kati Evans: Nods

[08:53] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Did we ever vote on the scribe caste codes?

[08:53] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): oh forgot

[08:54] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): can you bring it up next meeting

[08:54] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): let me pass it out

[08:55] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): And another thing to do might be to revert to an IC meeting format for the period between the summit and January, and just give reports, or maybe have someone suggest a topic and we discuss it for an hour

[08:55] Jewella (julieanne.rau) is online.

[08:57] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Please look that over and give input

[08:57] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): The orginals are on the bottom

[08:57] Dexter Winters (sytheking1) is offline.

[08:58] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Its been revised about every seven years

[08:58] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): or at least looked at

[08:59] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): There is a Magistrate one also

[08:59] Odette Atheria: Is there a simple version without all the quotes?

[08:59] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes

[08:59] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): on a poster

[08:59] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Maybe we can take up an hour of lecture time to discuss the proposed codes and "vote" on it, being fully aware that players will do as they want

[08:59] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that is one i may make a second session for

[09:00] Kati Evans: There is?

[09:00] Odette Atheria: yeah - these seem more like "attributes" than a "code"

[09:00] Kati Evans: May I see?

[09:00] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that is why the quote at the tope

[09:00] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): top

[09:01] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): saying what codes aer

[09:01] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): are

[09:01] shar Silverclaw-Jacobson  (shar.boxen) is online.

[09:02] Odette Atheria: so these are Core Values that a Scribe should posess

[09:02] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Each caste has a set of "codes" which helps them maintain a series of beliefs and rules for its members. Members hold to these "codes" as they practice their profession. Each caste's code is different and deals mainly with matters of specific interest to that caste.

[09:02] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): The ethical teachings of Gor, which are independent of the claims and propositions of the Initiates, amount to little more than the Caste Codes - collections of sayings whose origins are lost in antiquity.

{Tarnsman of Gor ~ 40}"

[09:03] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): our ethical teachings

[09:03] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): and set of beliefs

[09:03]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye) is online.

[09:03] Ayira Nayo (ayiranayo) is online.

[09:04] Odette Atheria: so this is a code of ethics?

[09:04] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes

[09:04] Odette Atheria: Then that should be clearly stated

[09:04] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): its been called our codes since 2007

[09:04] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): The Warrior codes are discussed at great lengths in the books, the scribe codes are not, so our forefathers and mothers in the 2000 aughts invented them.

[09:05] Odette Atheria: a code of ethics is a set of specific rules and guidelines that dictate appropriate conduct in a particular context

[09:05] Ayira Nayo (ayiranayo) is offline.

[09:05] Odette Atheria: just saying

[09:05] Sara (alluring.waggletail) is offline.

[09:05] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): and its was taught as codes at the campus for 16 yrs

[09:05] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): we can say its our ethics

[09:06] Odette Atheria: Can't we CALL it that?

[09:06] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): It was taught  but not all agreed to it.

[09:06] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): most did

[09:06] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): and the campus pussed it

[09:06] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): ok i have a class

[09:06] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Generally the codes, as Odette says, are more specific

[09:06] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): The document has been discussed thru out the years.. There are those that agree to the ethics  but didn't see it as Codes.

[09:06] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): for the warriors yes

[09:06] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but not for the scirbes

[09:07] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): we can call it both

[09:07] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): may do that, just to ride the lline

[09:07] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): put an or between codes and ethics

[09:08] Sara (alluring.waggletail) is online.

[09:08] Dawn Lane (dawnna.lane) is online.

[09:08] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that may help

[09:08] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but , the reason for this was that it was not complete either ways

[09:08] Odette Atheria: "Code of Ethics"

[09:09] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that would work

[09:09] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): It's a fine line..  Not all Scribes will follow what is written..  Are we to say they are to be stripped of their Caste cause they choose differently?

[09:09] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): depends on which one they ignore

[09:09] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): impartiality?

[09:09] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): honesty?

[09:10] Odette Atheria: There are always those persons who gree to pass into the profession, but then do not follow.

[09:10] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): always

[09:10] Odette Atheria: RL is like that.

[09:11] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but i will chage the name

[09:11] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Actually maybe it is not codes but aphorisms that we need

[09:11] Odette Atheria: Thank you. I feel better :-)

[09:11] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): code of ethics sounds good

[09:11] Odette Atheria chuckles and nods at Trygg

[09:11] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): aphorisms

[09:11] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): there was a list of those

[09:11] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): No stripping of anything because it is unenforceable and because people will do as they wish

[09:12] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but they were not speciific

[09:12] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): correct

[09:12] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I have a studeent waiting.

[09:12] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): take care all

[09:12] Second Life: TryggTyran gave you Scribe Code Aphorisms.

[09:12] Odette Atheria: That would not be up to us anyway, it would be a matter for the city caste they were in

[09:12] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Maybe

[09:12] ꝀȺɌ (karisima.stein): Aye

[09:13] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Do the Physicians adhere to specific procedures?

[09:13] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I don't know

[09:14] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): So give it some thought

[09:14] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): and we can pick it up at some point

[09:15] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I think we have run out of time.

[09:15] Kati Evans: Send me anything you want us to look st for the next meeting and I will add it to what I have.

Combined Meeting Minutes: SCoG (Scribe Caste of Gor) Summit Planning & Monthly Meeting

Combined Meeting Minutes: SCoG (Scribe Caste of Gor) Summit Planning & Monthly Meeting

Meeting Dates & Times:

• Meeting 1 Morning (Summit Planning): August 6, 2025, 8:01 AM - 8:59 AM SLT

• Meeting 2 Evening (Monthly Meeting): August 6, 2025, 4:42 PM - 5:53 PM SLT

Location for both meetings: City of Tyros - BtB Gorean Roleplay Soft Open No Raids, Unknown Island (226, 99, 37) Nature of Meetings: OOC (Out of Character) for Scribe Summit Planning and SCoG Monthly Meeting. Host/Organizer: Abraham Jacobson (Magistrate at Selnar, representing SCoG - Scribe Caste of Gor)

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Participants Across Both Meetings:

Attended Both Meetings:

• Abraham Jacobson (Magistrate at Selnar, Host/Organizer)

• Kati Evans (Legal clerk to Abraham in Sulnar)

• Trygg Tyran (Scribe Caste member)

• Bea Lael Gùshì (Freelance Merchant Magistrate/Advocate)

• Dexter Winters (Apprentice Scribe in Sulport)

Attended August 6th Morning Meeting Only:

• Caroline Gallius (Attendee)

• Heide Nightwish (Records keeper of Venna)

• Avery Hamilton (Attendee)

• Hermes (Zarathustra Khan of Isfahan, involved in House of Wisdom/Summit prep)

• Myriam-alyah Spires (Lady of Lame Kaiila, Scribe to Sir Yuroki, Writer, Magistrate, responsible for schedule/advertising)

• Jewella (Lady, Scribe Caste of Tharna, specializing in Cartography)

• Odette Atheria (Tyros Caste, Admin Assistant to Trent Victus)

• Kiki Silverclaw-Jacobson (Lady, FC to Abraham)

Attended August 6th Evening Meeting Only:

• Vougan (Tyros representative, possibly HoC or acting HoC)

• Atiya Valencia (Attendee)

• Autumn Haui (Attendee)

• Loreena Himura (Attendee)

• Drew Barnard (Scribe Caste member, interested in further learning)

• Lady Elphabala Death (Attendee, potential debate participant)

• Victoria Forstander (EvaValentino) (Confirmed teacher for Summit, Abraham's mother - Note: While confirmed as a teacher, her direct participation in the August 6th chat log is not explicitly shown, but her role was discussed.)

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Key Discussion Points & Decisions:

1. SCoG Meetings & Membership:

   • August 6th Evening: Meetings are monthly OOC, hosted by SCoG, running for almost two years with over 100 active members.

   • Both Morning & Evening: Membership update: SCoG grew by 30 people (thanks to Enkara), reaching 105 total, making it the largest active group. The goal remains to unite scribes and attract independent ones.

   • August 6th Evening: Meeting format confirmed as text-based. Good turnout for the 5 PM SLT meeting. Discussion about ideal meeting times for different global time zones (US, Canada, Brazil).

2. Scribe Summit Schedule & House of Wisdom:

   • August 6th Morning: Decision made to inaugurate the House of Wisdom earlier (September) to allow more space for the Summit. The building is expected to be finished by end of August, with a guided tour planned. Hermes will start Gorean Zoology lectures in early September.

   • August 6th Morning: A one-hour break was noted after the last lecture. Trygg suggested filling this with another lecture to maintain momentum, and Hermes agreed.

   • August 6th Evening: Trygg distributed the updated Google Drive schedule (link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eSnXY-SvDrlNFqFZDmISmNHtLBb8-LtrrbE5GcvUvts/edit?usp=sharing).

   • August 6th Evening: The Hall of Wisdom (new Scribe house) is a grand enterprise, with Biology and Zoology courses planned to start in September.

3. Summit Lecturers/Teachers:

   • Both Morning & EveningAugust 3rd & 6th: Victoria Forstander (Abraham's mother, 20+ years teaching in Gor) is confirmed to teach for the Summit, possibly focusing on Mapmaking. Abraham will contact her for her schedule.

   • August 6th Evening: Fogaban is confirmed to be teaching, known for setting up "the Gorean Cave."

4. Debates for the Summit (IC - In Character, court-room style):

   • Both Morning & Evening: Proposed as an opportunity to showcase rhetorical skills, logic, and wit. Three debates, one per day, with word limits and moderation. Topics will be released a week in advance.

   • Both Morning & Evening: Proposed Topics:

     1. Women's Roles: Are women allowed to be Magistrates and HoCs? (Noted as a contentious topic with varying city views).

     2. Scribe/Magistrate Training: Is formal training necessary, or is on-the-job experience sufficient? (Includes the "both" option).

     3. Merchant Magistrates: Should Scribes or Merchants serve as Merchant Magistrates? (This varies by city).

   • August 6th Morning: Kati, Bea, and Kiki were suggested as good candidates for debate. Hermes expressed interest in observing.

   • August 6th Evening: Lady Elphabala Death expressed interest as a potential participant. Drew Barnard volunteered to moderate.

5. DJ & Slave Dance for Summit:

   • Both Morning & Evening: A DJ is scheduled for Sunday from 4-6 PM. Discussion occurred on whether to add a morning DJ for a European audience. Trygg expressed enthusiasm for attending the Gorean slave dance.

6. Outreach & Public Relations:

   • August 6th Morning: Myriam approached Lady Skylar for participation but received no response.

   • Both Morning & Evening: Myriam will create a poster for SCoG sign-ups at the event.

   • August 6th Evening: Drew Barnard expressed appreciation for Abraham's work for the Scribe Caste, acknowledging efforts despite "haters." Vougan invited attendees to visit Tyros.

7. Individual Learning/Roles:

   • August 6th Evening: Vougan expressed interest in studying laws, biology, castes, and sub-castes to become a caste teacher.

   • August 6th Evening: Drew Barnard expressed strong interest in continuing his learning, particularly legal.

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Consolidated Action Items:

• Myriam-alyah Spires:

  • Adjust the Summit schedule (remove "inauguration of the HW" box, possibly address competing presentations).

  • Create a poster for SCoG sign-ups at the event.

• Abraham Jacobson:

  • Release official debate rules and format next week.

  • Contact Victoria Forstander to confirm her lecture time and course details (e.g., Mapmaking) to fill the 1-hour break.

  • Begin advertising the Summit widely in two weeks, beyond just scribe groups.

  • Provide Drew Barnard with details on new classes (legal, etc.).

• Vougan:

  • Continue studying laws, biology, castes, and sub-castes with the goal of becoming a caste teacher.

• Trygg Tyran:

  • Ensure the revised Summit schedule is distributed to all (already shared via Google Drive link).

• Lady Kati Evans:

  • Finish meeting notes and other pending tasks.

  • Consider publishing meeting minutes ("ehns").

• All Attendees:

  • Consider participating in the debates; rules will be released soon.

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Next Steps:

• Continued planning and coordination for the Scribe Summit, including securing all lecturers and refining the schedule.

• Formal release of debate rules and identification of debate participants for the Summit.

• Ongoing efforts to expand SCoG membership and foster a united scribe community.

SCoG (Scribe Caste of Gor) Summit Planning - Evening Session

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eSnXY-SvDrlNFqFZDmISmNHtLBb8-LtrrbE5GcvUvts/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Meeting Summary: SCoG Monthly Meeting (Second Life)

Date: August 6, 2025 Time: 4:42 PM - 5:53 PM SLT Location: City of Tyros - BtB Gorean Roleplay Soft Open No Raids (Unknown Island) Nature of Meeting: OOC (Out of Character) SCoG (Scribe Caste of Gor) Monthly Meeting.

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Participants:

• Abraham Jacobson: Magistrate at Selnar, Host/Organizer.

• Vougan: Tyros representative (possibly HoC or acting HoC).

• Kati Evans: Legal clerk to Abraham in Sulnar.

• Atiya Valencia: Attendee.

• Bea Lael Gùshì: Freelance Merchant Magistrate/Advocate.

• Dexter Winters: Apprentice Scribe in Sulport.

• Autumn Haui: Attendee.

• Loreena Himura: Attendee.

• Trygg Tyran: Scribe Caste member.

• Drew Barnard: Scribe Caste member, interested in further learning.

• Lady Elphabala Death: Attendee, potential debate participant.

• Victoria Forstander (EvaValentino): Confirmed teacher for Summit (Abraham's mother).

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Key Discussion Points & Decisions:

• Meeting Format: Confirmed as text-based, not voice.

• SCoG Meetings: These are monthly OOC meetings hosted by SCoG and have been running for almost two years, with over 100 active scribe members.

• Tyros Scribe HoC: Lady Angelica is currently acting as HoC for Tyros, but no official HoC has been appointed yet.

• Scribe Summit Schedule (Revised):

  • Trygg distributed the updated Google Drive schedule (link provided in chat).

  • Victoria Forstander (EvaValentino), a long-time Gor teacher, is confirmed to teach for the Summit, possibly focusing on Mapmaking. Abraham will contact her for her schedule.

  • Fogaban is confirmed to be teaching, known for setting up "the Gorean Cave," a valuable resource.

• Hall of Wisdom: This is a new Scribe house currently under construction and is a source of pride for the builders and scribes involved. Biology and Zoology courses are planned to start there in September.

• Debates (IC - In Character, court-room style):

  • Purpose: To showcase rhetorical skills, logic, and wit, similar to a courtroom setting.

  • Structure: Three debates, one per day, with word limits and moderation. Topics will be released a week in advance.

  • Proposed Topics:

    1. Women's Roles: Are women allowed to be magistrates and HoCs? (A contentious topic given varying city views and traditional roles).

    2. Scribe/Magistrate Training: Is formal training necessary, or is on-the-job experience sufficient? (Discussion included a "both" option).

    3. Merchant Magistrates: Should scribes or merchants serve as merchant magistrates? (This varies by city, and Abraham expressed a personal "issue" with merchants taking this role).

  • Participants: Lady Elphabala Death expressed interest as a potential participant. Drew Barnard volunteered to moderate.

• DJ & Slave Dance for Summit: A DJ is scheduled for Sunday from 4-6 PM. Trygg expressed enthusiasm for attending the Gorean slave dance.

• Membership & Outreach: SCoG's membership has grown to 105 active scribes. The goal is to unite scribes and attract those not currently part of a group.

• Lady Skylar: Myriam's attempt to contact Lady Skylar for participation received no response.

• Meeting Times: Discussion ensued about ideal meeting times, considering attendees from various time zones (US East Coast, US South, Canada (London/UK part of year), Brazil). The current 5 PM SLT meeting time had a good turnout.

• Appreciation: Drew Barnard expressed appreciation for Abraham's work for the Scribe Caste, acknowledging efforts despite "haters."

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Action Items:

• Abraham Jacobson:

  • Release official debate rules and format next week.

  • Contact Victoria Forstander to confirm her lecture schedule and potential Mapmaking course.

  • Continue efforts to attract independent scribes to SCoG.

• Vougan:

  • Further study laws, biology, castes, and sub-castes to become a caste teacher.

• Drew Barnard:

  • Contact Abraham tomorrow for details on new classes, particularly legal and other learning opportunities.

• Trygg Tyran:

  • Ensure the revised Summit schedule (Google Drive link provided) is distributed to all.

• Lady Kati Evans:

  • Finish meeting notes and other pending tasks.

  • Consider publishing meeting minutes ("ehns").

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Next Steps:

• Continued planning for the Scribe Summit, including securing all lecturers and finalizing the schedule.

• Formal release of debate rules and identification of debate participants.

• Ongoing efforts to expand SCoG membership and foster a united scribe community.

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[16:42] Vougan (vougankar): Welcome back!

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[16:42] Vougan (vougankar): Abraham, will today’s meeting be purely text-based or will there be voice?

[16:43] Kati Evans: I prefer text.

[16:43] Atiya Valencia (isidore33) is online.

[16:44] Kati Evans: FYI: You are still sitting on the floor.

[16:45] Vougan (vougankar): I would like to know, if it’s going to be by voice, I would need to know so I can enable voice here to hear you, since I usually keep it turned off.

[16:45] Vougan (vougankar): Oh!

[16:45] Vougan (vougankar): Let me stand up

[16:45] Kati Evans: Oh there

[16:45] Vougan (vougankar): smiles

[16:45] Kati Evans: Now you are at the table.

[16:46] Vougan (vougankar): I forgot to turn off the AO, that must be why I was sitting on the floor, smiles

[16:46] Dexter Winters (sytheking1) is offline.

[16:49] zCS # [Mod] AutumnRaineSkye Resident [RP] logged into the region.

[16:49] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): done for now

[16:49] zCS # [Mod] Frustrated Witch [RP] logged into the region.

[16:50] Kati Evans: This is part of my scrolls ... https://ladykatievansscog.blogspot.com/

[16:50] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): one last send out

[16:50] zCS # [Mod] Stephaine Skytower [Away] logged into the region.

[16:50] Vougan (vougankar): Thank you, I was going to ask you, but you had to relog. Thanks anyway, I’ll follow your blog, Lady Kati.

[16:51] zCS # [Mod] Stephaine Skytower switched from [Away] to [RP].

[16:52] Kati Evans: The front of it is under HOME where it says Lady Kati Evans

[16:52] zCS # [Mod] lifepath Resident switched from [Away] to [RP].

[16:52] Kati Evans: There is over 15 years of stuff, not all of it I can get to now.

[16:54] Vougan (vougankar): Awesome content!

[16:54] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) walked in and smiled to Vougan, then to everyone. "Greetings to you all again." smiled then took a seat where she had earlier

[16:54] Kati Evans: Oh that is right the court proceedings are going to start soon too.

[16:55] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Vougan how are you

[16:55] Kati Evans: Hello Lady Bea

[16:55] Dexter Winters (sytheking1) is online.

[16:55] Kati Evans: Hello Loreena

[16:55] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Tal Loreena

[16:55] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): good to see you

[16:55] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2) smiles

[16:55] Vougan (vougankar): Tal, my love

[16:56] Loreena Himura (loreena.faulkner) is online.

[16:56] Kati Evans: Add me if you wish.

[16:56] Loreena Himura (loreena.faulkner) settles into a chair, glancing about, "Tal, everyone."

[16:56] Dexter Winters (sytheking1) is offline.

[16:56] Vougan (vougankar): I'm doing great, Abraham. Thank you. And you?

[16:56] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): good very good

[16:57] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I like this building

[16:57] Vougan (vougankar): Tal, Lady Loreena.

[16:57] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): better than many

[16:57] Vougan (vougankar): smiles

[16:57] Kati Evans: The whole build looks pretty

[16:57] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): we rotate this meeting monthly

[16:57] Kati Evans: Had to peek

[16:57] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): So i have seen a lot of srcibe building

[16:58] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Does tyros have an HOC of scribes yet

[16:58] Vougan (vougankar): Indeed. The builders, together with the scribes, did an excellent job with the construction and decoration.

[16:59] Vougan (vougankar): Not yet, unfortunately,

[16:59] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): you ahoc is a member

[16:59] Loreena Himura (loreena.faulkner) shook her head, "close, but not yet."

[16:59] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but i missed her today

[16:59] Vougan (vougankar): Yes, it's Lady Angelica, she's acting as HoC for now

[16:59] Vougan (vougankar): but she's AHoC

[17:00] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I was blessed to see her last month

[17:00]  ღ Oℓïvïą -Lïv- Nïɠɧŧfąℓℓ  ღ (clover.nightfall) is online.

[17:00] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I will wait five min

[17:01] Vougan (vougankar) nods.

[17:01] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): tal autumn

[17:01] DJROO (djroo1) is online.

[17:01] Vougan (vougankar): Tal, Lady Autumn.

[17:01] Kati Evans: Greetings, Autumn

[17:01]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye): Tal everyone

[17:02] Jewella (julieanne.rau) is offline.

[17:02] Loreena Himura (loreena.faulkner): Greetings Autumn

[17:02]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye) is online.

[17:02] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): For those here, the meetings are OCC and are hosted monthly by SCoG Scribe Caste of Gor *

[17:03] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) nods and greets those that had arrived

[17:03] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): We have been doing this for close to two years and now number over 100 scirbes all active

[17:03] Vougan (vougankar): It would be great if Lady Angelica could join today, she has been doing an incredible job as HoC.

[17:03] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): She is very good

[17:03] Vougan (vougankar): Indeed.

[17:04] Dexter Winters (sytheking1) is online.

[17:04] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I am not sure of her schedule, i say her earlier

[17:04] Loreena Himura (loreena.faulkner) is offline.

[17:04] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): summer is trickly people are traveling ect

[17:04] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Chilgren

[17:04] Kati Evans: Tal Drew.

[17:04] Vougan (vougankar): Tal, Drew. Good to see you here today

[17:04] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Children

[17:04] Vougan (vougankar): Tal, Trygg.

[17:04] Kati Evans: Greetings Trygg

[17:04] Drew Barnard delicately removes the elaborately embroidered cloak and drapes it over the back of the seat

[17:04] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): good a good showing

[17:05] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): "Tal Scribes"

[17:05] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): oh i need to look closer

[17:05] Drew Barnard is online.

[17:05] zCS # [Mod] Eve2420 Resident [Combat] logged into the region.

[17:05] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Does everyone have the revised schedule?

[17:05] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that needs to be passed out

[17:05] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): do you have a copy Trygg

[17:05] Drew Barnard: Tal, fellow Scribes

[17:06] Drew Barnard: it is an honour to be among such learned and honourable colleagues of the Caste

[17:06] Vougan (vougankar) looked back and spotted Bea sitting in the armchair. I winked at her and then turned my attention back to the meeting.

[17:06] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I do

[17:07] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I can pass them to the others

[17:07] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): ty

[17:07] Drew Barnard smiles to Vaughn, whom he had met on his travels ... "Tal, honourable SIr Vaughn .. it is a joyful thing to encounter you once again"

[17:07] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): for those who use Google Drive https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eSnXY-SvDrlNFqFZDmISmNHtLBb8-LtrrbE5GcvUvts/edit?usp=sharing

[17:08] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that will update. There is one teacher who has not checked in yet but will

[17:08] Vougan (vougankar) nodded and smiled at Drew.

[17:08] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Which one is that, Abraham

[17:08] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Victoria

[17:09] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I suspect she will tell us here schedule soon

[17:09] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): At enkara she waited and i had to keep on her

[17:09] Drew Barnard smiles and discreetly waves to the Lady Bea

[17:09] zCS # [Mod] Zoe Starling [Away] logged into the region.

[17:10] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) blushed seeing Vougan's wink and winks back discretely.

[17:10] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): The hall of wisdom for those who do not know is the New Scribe house that is being built now

[17:10] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Its a grand interprize and they are  very proud of it

[17:10] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): enterprize

[17:10] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): blast

[17:10] Vougan (vougankar): Speaking of the teacher, I have to talk to Lady Angelica. I had decided to be the caste teacher, but I was mistaken, I need to study more to become a teacher.

[17:11] Ayira Nayo (ayiranayo) is online.

[17:11] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): What do you want to study Vougan

[17:11] Drew Barnard: I did not know of this and it sounds very interesting, teacher

[17:12] Vougan (vougankar): I would like to study a bit of everything, the laws, biology, the castes, and the sub-castes.

[17:12] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) gave kind wave of greeting to Drew.

[17:12] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): ok that can be done , biology is  going to be taught at the house of Wisdom stating in Sept

[17:13] Drew Barnard smiles as the man, Vaughn, speaks of further study, it being such a worthy ambition

[17:13] Vougan (vougankar): Awesome, Abraham!

[17:13] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): They are begining a Zooolgy course

[17:13] Kati Evans sits writing notes.

[17:13] Vougan (vougankar): Knowledge is never too much for me.

[17:13] Vougan (vougankar): smiles

[17:14] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala) frowns apologies, i meant to be on time.

[17:14] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): For those who do not know the friday class with Fogaban : he set up the gorian cave the best resource on Gor possible

[17:14] Vougan (vougankar): But I know you have to take one step at a time.

[17:14] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Very glad to see you

[17:15] Drew Barnard raises his hand

[17:15] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Yes Bernard

[17:16] Drew Barnard: Excuse me, teacher ... I, too, am most interested in continuing my learning ... at what ahn will these latest classes be taught, and in what place?

[17:17] Second Life: TryggTyran gave you Scribe Summit Schedule as of 8/6/2025.

[17:17] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): you know me Barnard , contact me tomorrow and i will get you the new classes

[17:17] Drew Barnard nods ... "Thank you, teacher"

[17:17] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): the legal is fun

[17:17] Drew Barnard nods

[17:18] zCS # [Mod] Luvly Dinzeo [RP] logged into the region.

[17:18] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): not onto the matters at hand. I am doing to of the ambassior classes

[17:18] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): And one legal

[17:18] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Mom i hope will do the Mapmaking

[17:19] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that is what she mentioned

[17:19] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): not sure yet

[17:19] William Carver is offline.

[17:20] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala): "I liked it all,"...err "Your mom Sir Abraham?"

[17:20] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): victoria forester is my mom

[17:20] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Has Fogaban confirmed, Abraham?

[17:20] William Carver is online.

[17:20] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) smiled hearing hat Vougan is hoping to gain more knowledge as she too enjoyed learning things. Called over (npc) slave to get her something to drink and sits comfortably in the chair.

[17:20] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): She came into gor 20 years go

[17:21] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): used to teach for the campus

[17:21] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): so well know

[17:22] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Victoria Forstander (EvaValentino)

[17:22] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): But she will add a lot

[17:22] Kati Evans: Thank you

[17:22] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Do you thing the dance on sunday will be atteneded

[17:22] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Indeed. She is a wonderful teacher. She taught last year and also at En'Kara

[17:23] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): we are doing it, but not sure about it

[17:23] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I will be attending. I love Gorean slave dancing

[17:23] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): others?

[17:23] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala): "thats fascinating, it seems there is a good line up of people already, i'm looking forward to it"

[17:23] Vougan (vougankar): Will Fogaban be attending the meeting today as well?

[17:24] Odette Atheria is offline.

[17:24] Kati Evans: This Sunday? Do you have the time and location?

[17:24] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): not that i know, i feel blessed he is teaching

[17:24] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes it will be at nuts can you spell it Trygg

[17:24] Vougan (vougankar): It would be amazing if Fogaban could attend.

[17:25] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): What is Hermies city

[17:25] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): i never spell it correctly

[17:25]  Nakajima Takahashi (anvarra.alecto) is online.

[17:26] zCS # [Mod] Kati Evans switched from [RP] to [Away].

[17:27] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): oh let me let you iknow

[17:27] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): tere will be three debates

[17:27] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Isfahan

[17:27] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): ty

[17:27] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): one each day

[17:27] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): ai am looking for people who want to see if they use their skill with works to argue a topic

[17:28] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I will roll rules out next week

[17:28]  Ａｕｒｏｒａ (arellaeve) is offline.

[17:28] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but it will be ic

[17:29] zCS # [Mod] KaneKnight Resident [Combat] logged into the region.

[17:29] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): and a word limit on each presentation. so its wits, logic and sparing with words and yes moderated

[17:29] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): what do you think , will that work?

[17:30] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): does it sound fun?

[17:30] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala): put me down as a potential, i havent seen them done but i like a challenge

[17:30] Drew Barnard: personally I think it sounds great

[17:30] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): topic will go out a week in advacne

[17:30] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Did you tell the group the proposed topics Abraham?

[17:30] Vougan (vougankar): It could be interesting indeed.

[17:30] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): not yet

[17:31] Drew Barnard: I would volunteer as a moderator ... I trust not my rhetorical skills to take on any so skilled as may be willing to stand to the battle of words

[17:31] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): the three are:

[17:32] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): 1 Women are allowed to be magistrates  and HOC's

[17:32] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Topic 2 Formal training for Scribes and Magistrates is needed , or just gotten as they do the job.

[17:32] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Topic 3 (Proposed by Abraham): Whether scribes or merchants should be merchant magistrates, as this varies by city.

[17:32] Drew Barnard: all excellent topics!

[17:33] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala): tricky

[17:33]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye): Very interesting

[17:33] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): in my city they hired a scribe for mm and then are deciding to have the merchant pick one

[17:33] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): i have an issue with that idea

[17:33] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but , both sides can be argued

[17:33] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala) smiles

[17:34] Selia (violet325) is offline.

[17:35] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that first i is hot'

[17:35] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): we have a load of women who want to be magistrates

[17:35] Vougan (vougankar): Very interesting topics to be discussed.

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[17:35] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but the Ubar and warriors say hell no

[17:35] Vougan (vougankar): sorry about that

[17:36] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Two warriors in the lega said women should have children and familes not be magsitrates

[17:37] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala): its not that high of a role

[17:37] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): its the hoc that is contested

[17:37] Drew Barnard shakes his head and leans down, cradling it in his hands

[17:37] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but any way i am hoping we can get that one debated

[17:38] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): again cites vary a lot

[17:38] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I am sure that someone will stand up

[17:38] Vougan (vougankar): indeed

[17:38] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): thurmus's hoc is a woman rp as a man so she can be hoc

[17:38] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala): Well as we are ooc here i can say that all that will happen is that the women will retrain as men alts and they will just be wasting time

[17:38] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): its say i am a woman in the profile

[17:38] Drew Barnard mutters ... when I ascend to Adminstrator of the city my father has bought for me, women will face no barriers to success

[17:38] Vougan (vougankar): It varies from city to city, not all cities have the same things. What applies in one city doesn’t apply in another, and so on.

[17:39] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that is one that the books deal with

[17:39] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but the answer usually is not enough men

[17:39]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye): nods

[17:39] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): so that is up for debate , really!

[17:40] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): We used to do debates in the caste, so why not again

[17:40] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Any questions or idea's

[17:41] zCS # [Mod] Kati Evans switched from [Away] to [RP].

[17:41] Drew Barnard slaps the table as Abraham speaks of bringing debates back ... "hear, hear, teacher!"

[17:41] Vougan (vougankar): First topic, right?

[17:41] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): good Drew signs up

[17:42] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): smles

[17:42] Drew Barnard widens his eyes and looks around ... "wha ... what did I 'sign up' for teacher?"

[17:42] Vougan (vougankar): smiles

[17:42] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): doing the debatre

[17:42]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye): chuckles

[17:42] Kati Evans: Nods

[17:42] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but, lets get the rules out first

[17:43] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): grins

[17:43] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala) nods her head thinking... then jumps in the air from her seat startled ... surprised by the enthusiasm

[17:43] Drew Barnard sputters ... "but ... my teacher ... I have not the rhetorical skills ... I am but a humble student ... "

[17:43] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I need to find a way to get the after four group involved

[17:43] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that is a bit of bs but lets move on

[17:43] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): are these meetings too early

[17:43] zCS # [Mod] Georgette Jonson [RP] logged into the region.

[17:43] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): or too late

[17:44] Drew Barnard: ooc: no .. .they verge on too late, I'm afraid

[17:44] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): others/

[17:44] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Drew are you us

[17:44] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): US

[17:44] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala): laughs "enthusiasm will carry  you through!"

[17:44] Drew Barnard: again ooc: this is a good time and I hope a balance ... I'm SLT +8 much of the year

[17:44] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes that is why too late

[17:44] Dexter Winters (sytheking1) is offline.

[17:45] Drew Barnard: ooc: I'm on the east coast of Canada for the summer, but much of the year I'm in London (UK)

[17:45] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): the US Assie group comes in late

[17:45] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): not that is a travel schedule i envy

[17:46] Vougan (vougankar): I must be the only one from the SA here.

[17:46] zCS # [Mod] Artemisia77 Resident switched from [Combat] to [RP].

[17:46] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): may need to ask that at summit

[17:46] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): its dinner in Cal

[17:47] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but almost bed on east coat Canada

[17:47] Drew Barnard: yeah ... I've got, at most, another hour

[17:47] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala) thinks you need an aussie liasison

[17:47] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but some come on after they put the children to sleep

[17:48] Kati Evans: grins and blushes

[17:48] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): do not want the little ones to hear a whip on the speakers

[17:48] Drew Barnard smirks

[17:48] Vougan (vougankar): smiles

[17:48] zCS # [Mod] Atiriya Resident [Combat] logged into the region.

[17:48] zCS # [Mod] Damian Audran [RP] logged into the region.

[17:48] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): "This is the best turnout I have seen for a 5 pm meeting.

[17:48] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): there are a lot of women where this is the bdsm time, with vanella husbands

[17:48] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): So, well done

[17:49] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes thank you all

[17:49] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I was beginning to think that all the scribes except me and Astary were in Europe

[17:49] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I am US

[17:49]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye): I'm US

[17:49] Kati Evans: US

[17:49] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): East coast?

[17:49] Kati Evans: East Coast

[17:49] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): South

[17:50]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye): I'm EST

[17:50] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): so its a gamble

[17:50] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala): I am a night owl

[17:50] Vougan (vougankar): I'm in Brazil

[17:50] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes East coast for some its better , husband is busy and children to bed

[17:50] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Wow great. That is SL +6 Vougan?

[17:50] Vougan (vougankar): yes

[17:51] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Thank you for being here Vougan

[17:51] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Bea is quite, but is  a treat to be around

[17:52] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): and very talented

[17:52] zCS # [Mod] Estinie Resident [RP] logged into the region.

[17:52] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): in court she is a fireball

[17:52] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala) smiles and terrifying in a courtroom hahaha

[17:52] Drew Barnard: Bea is great!

[17:53] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala) smiles

[17:53] Melody of Koroba (melody.tarber) is online.

[17:53] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): she hides herself but well worth getting ot know

[17:53] Vougan (vougankar): Bea is my precious heart, she always accompanies me and I always accompany her when I am online.

[17:53] K A E L A (yenniferrivia) is offline.

[17:53] Dexter Winters (sytheking1) is online.

[17:53] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Well were done for today. Thank you all

[17:54] Drew Barnard nods

[17:54] Drew Barnard clears his throat

[17:54] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes drew?

[17:54] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala) smiles, it was nice to meet you

[17:54] zCS # [Mod] alicia Skodlow [RP] logged into the region.

[17:54] Selia (violet325) is online.

[17:55] Vougan (vougankar): It’s a pleasure to meet everyone here at this meeting.

[17:55] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Both meetings were perfectly times.

[17:55] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): timed

[17:55] Drew Barnard: May I say ... for myself, but I hope for the entire caste, that the work you have done for us as a Caste is impressive and sincerely appreciated. And, to acknowledge an elephant in the shadows, I am happy that the haters haven't detered you.

[17:55] Vougan (vougankar): To meet new faces and see the familiar ones.

[17:55] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Hear hear!

[17:57] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala) safe paths everyone

[17:57] Kati Evans: Thank you everyone.

[17:57] Lady Elphabala Death (elphabala) is offline.

[17:57] Vougan (vougankar): I extend an invitation to everyone still here to visit the city of Tyros, it will be an honor to have you as visitors.

[17:58] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Thank you Sir.

[17:58]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye): It was a pleasure to meet you all

[17:58] Drew Barnard nods and smiles ... "Thank you, Sir Vaughn. And once again, an honour to be in your esteemed presence"

[17:58] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran) rises. "Who is going to publish the minutes, or ehns, " laughs "of the meeting?"

[17:59] Drew Barnard chuckles

[17:59] Kati Evans: Thank you, that sounds fun.

[17:59] Vougan (vougankar): maybe, Lady Kati?

[17:59] Kati Evans: On another night.  I have to finish the notes for the meeting and a few things.

[18:00] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) smiled hearing the praise from Abraham and Drew. "Thank you kindly."

[18:00] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) smiled, "Thank you Vougan'

[18:00] Vougan (vougankar): Take your time, Lady Kati. You do an excellent job; there’s no need to rush.

[18:00] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): VEry well. Thank you Lady

[18:00] Reese Kismyaz-ʙʟᴀᴄᴋʙᴜʀɴ (keeperofthezoo) is offline.

[18:00] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I am not in a huge hurry

[18:00] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): but we should have a record

[18:00] Drew Barnard rises and nods respectfully afore draping his cloak over his shoulder and securing the catch ... "Scribes of my esteemed Caste ... it is an honour to be amongst your learned selves. May the blessings of the Priest Kings be with you. I must now take my leave."

[18:01] Vougan (vougankar): I wish you well, Drew.

[18:01] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): "

[18:01] Reese Kismyaz-ʙʟᴀᴄᴋʙᴜʀɴ (keeperofthezoo) is online.

[18:01] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): "Be well all"

[18:01]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye): "Be well"

[18:02] Kati Evans: Night

[18:02] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) smiled, "That was a very nice meeting."

[18:02] Dexter Winters (sytheking1) is offline.

[18:03] Vougan (vougankar) gently caressed Bea’s face, took her hand, and gave it a long kiss. "Indeed, my love. It was a good meeting; I was very happy you were here with me."

[18:05]  Aυţυмη нαuι (autumnraineskye) is offline.

[18:06] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) smiled feeling his care. "You did a wonderful job... Oh what would you like to do next?" Held his hand

[18:09] Drew Barnard is offline.

[18:09] Nephtides na Neidos (nephtides) is offline.

[18:09] zCS # [Mod] ShadowResistance Resident [RP] logged into the region.

[18:10] zCS # [Mod] AmirMahalah Resident [RP] logged into the region.

[18:10] Vougan (vougankar) "Thank you, my love. I’m looking forward to working with Abraham; learning from him will be an honor." I paused for a moment, thinking, "How about we take a walk and see what we can do?" I offered my arm for her to hold, and we walked out of the Scribes’ building toward the streets of Tyros. I glanced quickly at Lady Kati, who was sitting there, gave her a respectful nod, and walked out of the building with Bea.

[18:10] Drew Barnard is online.

[18:11] Dexter Winters (sytheking1) is online.

SCoG (Scribe Caste of Gor) Summit Planning - Morning Session

Meeting Summary: SCoG (Scribe Caste of Gor) Summit Planning

Date: August 3, 2025 Time: 8:01 AM - 8:59 AM SLT Location: City of Tyros - BtB Gorean Roleplay Soft Open No Raids, Unknown Island (226, 99, 37) Nature of Meeting: OOC (Out of Character) for Scribe Summit Planning.

Host/Organizer: Abraham Jacobson (Selnar Magistrate, representing SCoG - Scribe Caste of Gor)

Participants & Affiliations:

• Abraham Jacobson: Magistrate at Selnar, Host/Organizer.

• Caroline Gallius: Attendee.

• Heide Nightwish: Records keeper of Venna (Resort City).

• Avery Hamilton: Attendee.

• Kati Evans: Legal clerk to Abraham in Sulnar.

• Trygg Tyran: Attendee, seems to be a general member or ambassador for the Scribe Caste (mentioned 100 members).

• Hermes (Zarathustra Khan): Of Isfahan, actively involved in Summit preparation and hosting the Summit at the new House of Wisdom.

• Myriam-alyah Spires: Lady of Lame Kaiila, Scribe to Sir Yuroki, Writer, recently graduated Magistrate. (Responsible for schedule and advertising).

• Bea Lael Gùshì: Freelance Merchant Magistrate and/or Advocate, recent graduate of Abraham's Merchant Magistrate course.

• Jewella: Lady, Scribe Caste of Tharna, specializing in Cartography.

• Odette Atheria: Tyros Caste, Admin Assistant to Trent Victus.

• Dexter Winters: Apprentice Scribe in Sulport, studying with Abraham, leaning towards legal side.

• Kiki Silverclaw-Jacobson: Lady, FC to Abraham.

Discussion Points & Decisions:

1. Scribe Summit Schedule & House of Wisdom Inauguration:

   • Decision: The House of Wisdom inauguration will happen earlier, in September, to give the Summit more space.

   • Clarification: The first small blue box regarding inauguration on the schedule can be removed.

   • Confirmation: The building will be finished by the end of August.

   • Event: A guided tour will take place. Hermes will start a series of lectures on Gorean Zoology in the first week of September.

   • Schedule Adjustment: A one-hour break after the last lecture is noted.

   • Proposed Improvement: Trygg suggests filling the one-hour break with another lecture to maintain momentum and avoid competing events. Hermes agrees.

   • Action: Myriam to adjust the schedule to remove the inauguration box and potentially address competing presentation sessions. Abraham to contact Victoria Forstander for a complete course/lecture during the break.

2. Victoria Forstander's Participation:

   • Confirmation: Victoria Forstander (Abraham's mother, 20+ years in Gor teaching) will teach for the Summit.

3. Debate Topics for the Summit (IC - In Character, court-room style):

   • Topic 1: Are women allowed to be Magistrates and HOCs (Heads of Caste)? (Yes or No debate)

   • Topic 2: Is formal training for Scribes and Magistrates needed, or is on-the-job experience sufficient? (Includes the "both" option as well)

   • Topic 3 (Proposed by Abraham): Should Scribes or Merchants be Merchant Magistrates (as this varies by city)?

   • Rules: Rules and format for the debates will be released soon, limiting word count. Participants will not choose their topic but defend a given position.

   • Interest: Several attendees (Kati, Bea, Kiki) are suggested as good candidates for debate. Hermes expresses interest in observing.

4. DJ for Summit:

   • Confirmation: Current DJ is scheduled for Sunday from 4-6 PM.

   • Discussion: Whether to have a Morning DJ for Euro (European) audience or skip it.

   • Action: Schedule to be adapted if Victoria takes the lecture slot during the 1-hour break.

5. Lady Skylar Outreach:

   • Status: Myriam approached Lady Skylar for participation but received no response.

   • Note: Myriam emphasizes that Skylar was indeed asked.

6. SCoG Membership & Outreach:

   • Membership Update: SCoG membership has increased by 30 people (thanks to Enkara), now totaling 105, making it the largest active group.

   • Goal: Unite scribes and give reasons for independent scribes to join the group.

   • Action: Myriam will create a poster for SCoG sign-ups at the event.

Action Items:

• Myriam-alyah Spires:

  • Adjust the Summit schedule (remove "inauguration of the HW" box, possibly address competing presentations).

  • Create a poster for SCoG sign-ups at the event.

• Abraham Jacobson:

  • Release debate rules and format soon.

  • Contact Victoria Forstander to confirm her lecture time and course details to fill the 1-hour break.

  • Begin advertising the Summit widely in two weeks, beyond just scribe groups.

• All Attendees:

  • Consider participating in the debates; rules will be released soon.

Next Steps:

• Next meeting will involve the release of debate rules and format.

• Continued planning and coordination for the Scribe Summit, including securing lecturers and refining the schedule.

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[07:59] Second Life: Teleport completed from Cosian Coast (57,70,21)

You are now at City of Tyros - BtB Gorean Roleplay *Soft Open No Raids*, Unknown Island (226, 99, 37)

[07:59] Huntsy Silverpath (huntsman.hinterland) is online.

[08:00] zCS: [Unknown Island] - Money - Self-Unbind: Off - Aid: Off - Fall Damage: On - Drowning: On - 35% Pickaxe - Weaker Females - No Resets - Beasts - Enhanced Range

[08:01] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): ok I know trygg is on his way

[08:01] Caroline Gallius (carolinemonclaire): Greetings everyone.

[08:01] Heide Nightwish (heidelockheart.nightwish): Good Morning

[08:02] Selia (violet325) is online.

[08:02] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): We do this at 5 pm. Hermies is coming then. That time seems to be an issue. anyone know how we can get more in the afternoon

[08:03] Lyvilia (lyvilia.seda) is offline.

[08:03] zCS # [Mod] prinzensaft Resident switched from [Away] to [RP].

[08:03] Avery Hamilton (freyadragonborn): her eyes would peer around the table, in a soft voice she says "Greetinsg Sir, Greetings Ladies. I am Avery, it's lovely to see you all here."

[08:03] Sylvi Amour is online.

[08:03] Kati Evans: Greetings all

[08:03] Caroline Gallius (carolinemonclaire): Greetings

[08:04] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): This meeting is OCC  my nature, due to what we discuss

[08:04] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): 'Tal, everyone."

[08:04] Hermes (prinzensaft): greetings everyone!

[08:05] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): The group that sponsors this meeting is SCoG Scribe Caste of Gor *

[08:05] Myriam-alyah Spires (noirnyte.spires): did i miss anyone?

[08:06] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Myriam just sent the current schedule for the summit

[08:06] Hermes (prinzensaft): I missed it I think

[08:06] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): If you did not get one tell her

[08:06] Hermes (prinzensaft): there it is, thank you!

[08:07] Hermes (prinzensaft): @

[08:08] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Some are new, lets go around , tell us where you are from and you Position. yes Hermies

[08:08] shar Silverclaw-Jacobson  (shar.boxen) is online.

[08:09] Hermes (prinzensaft): concerning the schedule we decided last night to give the Summit more space by inaugurating the House of Wisdom earlier, beginning september.

[08:09] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Oh not on that day?

[08:10] Hermes (prinzensaft): Looks at Myriam "so the first small blue box could disappear. the initaties will then take action at 9:30 as indicated, by directly opening the summit"

[08:10] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): ok but will the tour be given?

[08:11] Hermes (prinzensaft): Yes, Abe. The Architect assured me that the building will be finished end of August. We will consecrate it in the first week of September when I will start a series of lectures in Gorean Zoology.

[08:12] Hermes (prinzensaft): the guided tour will take place, all you need to do, Myriam is to eliminate the first light blue blox saying inauguration of the HW

[08:12] Avery Hamilton (freyadragonborn) is offline.

[08:13] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Hermies could you intorduce youself

[08:13] Avery Hamilton (freyadragonborn) is online.

[08:13] Sylvi Amour is offline.

[08:14] zCS # [Mod] FreyaDragonborn Resident [RP] logged into the region.

[08:14] zCS # [Mod] Kati Evans switched from [RP] to [Away].

[08:14] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) had hurried up the stairs, having woken up late. After reaching the meeting area would sit down quietly to not disrupt anything

[08:15] Hermes (prinzensaft): "Oh sorry yes of course. I am Zarathustra Khan of Isfahan also called Hermes. The Scribe Summit at our new House of Wisdom is in swell preparation and we are proud to host the summit."

[08:15] ﾚаяа (larabones) is online.

[08:16] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I am Abraham, Magistrate at Selnar

[08:16] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Tyrgg can you go next

[08:18] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): he is busy, Bea can you introduce yourself

[08:18] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): where are you and what are youi doing

[08:19] Avery Hamilton (freyadragonborn) is offline.

[08:19] shar Silverclaw-Jacobson  (shar.boxen): ((sorry I be late))

[08:20] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that is not work

[08:20] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): lets moving on

[08:21] Avery Hamilton (freyadragonborn) is online.

[08:21] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Victoria Forstander is going to teach for the summit, she is a long time teacher in gor

[08:21] Hermes (prinzensaft): Oh you got contact with her again?

[08:21] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I talked to her yesterday been here for about 20 yrs

[08:22] Hermes (prinzensaft): That is good to hear

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[08:22] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): She is my mother, so i can contact her in rl

[08:23] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) jumps up, "Greetings to each and all the lovely people in this room. I am Bea Lael, recent graduate of Abraham's Merchant Magistrate course. So I am a Freelance Merchant Magistrate and or Advocate with plans to open my own private practice. Thank you kindly." smiled

[08:23] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Thank you bea

[08:23] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran) smiles "That is wonderful news!"

[08:23] Jewella (julieanne.rau): stands next "I am Lady Jewella, scribe caste of Tharna and specializing in Cartography" sits down

[08:23] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): She has a car accident

[08:24] Hermes (prinzensaft): Looks at the Lady with much interest and scribbles in his note scroll.

[08:24] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): thank you Jewella

[08:24] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Odette where are you these days

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[08:25] Odette Atheria: "I am here at Tyros in the casste, but not working as a scribe for the sity.  I am instead admin assitant to Trent Victus."

[08:25] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): oh that is a great change, Trent is an old time scribe

[08:27] Odette Atheria: "It is, nd I am very happy to be here"

[08:27] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Dexter tak a moment where are you working and doing what

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[08:28] Dexter Winters (sytheking1): tal i am dexter and currently an apprenticee scribe in sulport studying with abraham and leaning to the legal side of scribe cste

[08:28] Second Life: Odette Atheria gave you {Zaara} MAINSTORE /  Discover Incredible India.

[08:29] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): anyone i miss

[08:30] Dexter Winters (sytheking1): currently i do general scribe work but not yet allowed to sign or seal documents

[08:30] zCS # [Mod] Kati Evans switched from [Away] to [RP].

[08:30] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): ok back to the agenda

[08:31] Myriam-alyah Spires (noirnyte.spires): I am Lady Myriam, of Lame Kaiila ,Scribe to Sir Yuroki and Writer, recently graduation Magistrate

[08:32] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): anyone else?

[08:32] Kati Evans: Me?

[08:32] Kiki Silverclaw-Jacobson (elphaba.jinxing): I am lady Kiki Silverclaw Jacobson, and this is my daughter and I am FC to Abraham

[08:32] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes please

[08:32] Caroline Gallius (carolinemonclaire): Apologies, please excuse me.

[08:33] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Kati?

[08:33] Heide Nightwish (heidelockheart.nightwish): I am Heide Nightwish, records keeper of Venna

[08:33] Kati Evans: I am Kati Evans, Legal clerk to Abraham in Sulnar.

[08:33] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): oh cool Venna one of the new cities

[08:33] Heide Nightwish (heidelockheart.nightwish): Yes it is a resort city

[08:34] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Very glad to have it back

[08:34] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Moving on : There are three debate topics currently, let me list them and get you input.

[08:34] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): one: Women are allowed to be magistrates  and HOC's

[08:34] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes or no

[08:35] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Topic 2 Formal training for Scribes and Magistrates is needed , or just gotten as they do the job.

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[08:35] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Topic 3 (Proposed by Abraham): Whether scribes or merchants should be merchant magistrates, as this varies by city.

[08:36] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I will put the rules out soon. Think about if you would like to debate and I hope to get pro and con for all three topic

[08:36] Jewella (julieanne.rau) is online.

[08:37] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): But you do not pic the topic , its a show of your skill in defending a position  simular to being in a court room

[08:37] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): and your wits

[08:37] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Number os words will be limited

[08:38] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): And its IC

[08:38] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): So very much like in court as far as style

[08:38] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Topics what do you think?

[08:39] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): do you have  a better idea

[08:39] Kati Evans: Good ones

[08:39] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Sounds good

[08:39] Odette Atheria: I can see a thrid option for the training:  bith

[08:39] Odette Atheria: both

[08:39] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): oh forgot birth

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[08:40] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that is the gorian cave argument, i am born iwth the knowledge

[08:40] Odette Atheria: I meant both formal training and practical experience

[08:40] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes

[08:40] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that is what i am talkilng about

[08:41] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): next meeting i will release the rules. and the format. Think about if you would like to do this

[08:41] Tyan Cabot (tyancabot) is online.

[08:41] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): hands up if your interseted

[08:42] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran) looks around

[08:43] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I would prefer to observe. We have 100 members though so I am sure we can find 6 people to debate

[08:43] Hermes (prinzensaft): I was never present at such a debate and first want to make that experience. So count me in as interested but not as actively debating.

[08:44] Heide Nightwish (heidelockheart.nightwish): Please excuse me and have a lovely day, I need to go to bed

[08:44] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): ok the rules will be out soon, and look at them. Kati Bea and Kiki would be good at this

[08:45] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I have seen them in courjt

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[08:45] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but it will be sent to all of gor lets see what happens

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[08:46] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): last item for me, we have our DJ, he will be on from 4-6 pm Sunday

[08:46] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Do we want a Morning Dj for Euro

[08:46] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): or skip it

[08:46] Hermes (prinzensaft): on the plan it says 3pm now

[08:46] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): no it 4-6

[08:46] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): its all ready on the whip calendar

[08:47] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): and they will advertize it for us

[08:47] Hermes (prinzensaft): in that case we have a one-hour break after the last lecture

[08:47] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes lets serve drinks

[08:47] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): we can have a drinking contest

[08:47] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): We should fill in that hour with a lecture to keep the momentum going

[08:47] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): grins

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[08:48] Hermes (prinzensaft): yes, I agree

[08:48] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Victoria may take it

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[08:48] Hermes (prinzensaft): and please adapt the calendar

[08:48] Myriam-alyah Spires (noirnyte.spires) wonders why me? "laughs - okies thas very nice of you to offer a free bar Dear Khan"

[08:48] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): But this is a great start

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[08:48] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): she wants to do a complete course

[08:48] Myriam-alyah Spires (noirnyte.spires): :D

[08:48] Nephtides na Neidos (nephtides) is online.

[08:48] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I will bother i mean contact her tomorrow

[08:49] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I am so much more comfortable with this schedule. It is tighter and makes more sence.

[08:49] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): and get her times

[08:49] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Good

[08:49] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): The only thing that we might want to change is the sessions with competing presentations

[08:49] Hermes (prinzensaft): yes but please don't punish speakers by putting their lecture during the dance show

[08:49] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): This is not a big enough event to support competing events

[08:50] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): I would like to see only one event per session

[08:50] Hermes (prinzensaft): nods. Yes having only one at any time would be great, i agree

[08:50] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) smiled hearing some compliments and dipped her head humbly in gratitude

[08:50] Myriam-alyah Spires (noirnyte.spires) frowns, "on a sober note i have approached Lady Skylar and had no response at all"

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[08:50] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): I am shocked

[08:50] Myriam-alyah Spires (noirnyte.spires): "but she cannot say she wasnt 't asked".

[08:50] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran) smiles

[08:50] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): i thought she would jump at the offere

[08:50] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): offer

[08:51] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Huge surprise lol

[08:51] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): We tried

[08:51] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes,, its time to try and get scribes united

[08:51] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): or try too

[08:52] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Thank you all we are closer to what we wanted

[08:52] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): We will start advertizing it over over in two weeks

[08:52] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Myriam are the items in green confirmed?

[08:52] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): not just the scribe groups

[08:53] Myriam-alyah Spires (noirnyte.spires): yes

[08:53] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Enkara jumpted our membership by 30 people

[08:53] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): We are now at 105

[08:54] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): that makes up the largest active group

[08:54] Kiki Silverclaw-Jacobson (elphaba.jinxing) is offline.

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[08:54] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): but a lot do not belong to any group

[08:55] Odette Atheria: @

[08:55] Sparkle (sparklingjewelri) is online.

[08:55] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): we need to give them a reason too

[08:55] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): yes oddette

[08:55] Odette Atheria: Will there be a poster for sign up ti the SCoG* group at the event?

[08:55] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): Myraim will make that happen

[08:56] Hermes (prinzensaft): oh yes the poster! Myriam made a nice one!

[08:56] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): she did a great job at enkara

[08:56] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Very impressive, and almost two months out to have so many confirmations.

[08:57] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): this is work but worth it. our caste is hurting

[08:58] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): merchants and warriors want our jobs

[08:58] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): thank you all for coming

[08:58] Hermes (prinzensaft): Please excuse me, the games are starting ! I need to leave. See you, Abe, ambassador, Ladies!

[08:58] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): i have a class to teach

[08:58] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): take care

[08:58] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): Be well Hermes

[08:59] Abraham Jacobson (abrahamjacobs2): we care done

[08:59] Trygg Tyran (tryggtyran): So are we adjourned? Be well everyone.

[08:59] Odette Atheria: "I wish you all well.  And I will meander home"

[08:59] shar Silverclaw-Jacobson  (shar.boxen): be well all

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[09:06] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) smiled, "That was a nice meeting"

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[09:06] Bea Lael Gùshì 故事 (lifepath) "Please have a great day ladies." smiled to them then heads off

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